First and foremost, the purpose of this article is not to settle a dispute or make the fanboys angry. This is about being non-biased non-judgmental and being 100% fair with the Nexus One Flaws.
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Ahh, just kidding! What was mentioned above was just pure BS. You as the reader should realize why the title of this article has the 3 words which ends on “sucks” – Meaning this post will be all about the disadvantages of the ‘superphone’ the glitches/errors upon using it by real users who are now whining/b*tching/complaining on the google support forums.
Giving Nexus One a fair headstart of 6 days from the time it was first publicized is iThink what you call ‘fair’ –Now, its time to rip it off! Keep in mind that this article will continue to be updated when another ‘nexus one // google phone sucks’ tip arrives to our email.
Since our review with the nexus one from the day it was rumored, that day it became on a beautified steroids, and the day it was unveiled to the public — We kept hearing fanboys and non-fanboys having a tiresome debacle on which is which. It seems even giving this Matchup review won’t even give the final remedy for these guys. So we decided to create this one long post summarizing so far the reasons why nexus one SUCKS..
Okay’ I’m just repeating the word suck here, so without furthermore ado, let’s get it on!
Nexus One Mobile Plan Sucks
If you think the 530 USD unsubsidized / 180 USD tied with a 2 year-contract with Tmo was the best in the west plan, then think again. Little did you know that when you pick the locked plan with Tmo then it means you’re also obliged to get their 500 minute plan. You can’t choose any plan lower for this one.
Furthermore, if you are using your old 400 old minute plan, you can’t just upgrade it to a 500 plan, you need to buy it from scratch (so far). Well if you don’t like the locked deal, Google’s answer for this one is “Buy our unlocked version for “ONLY” 530 USD”. *take note of the quotation*
Sidenote: There are also some unofficial, unconfirmed yet inevitable rumors ‘roaming’ around… that nexus one is just a part of a sequel of nexuses models. Which begs the question, “When will the second model be unveiled?” and “Will that make the price of the old model drop too?”. The last thing users would like to happen is to see their superphone worth $500+ plummets to half of its price just after a few months. Oups!
A superphone without MultiTouch?
If you have been using iPhone/iPod Touch since the day it was born then you’ve probably been honed on that two-finger zooming /pinching of the screen. But not for Nexus One – I know this is an old news but for the sake of refreshing it. This lack is just a software insufficiency as implied by the android chieftain “Andy Rubin”. Although, there are no reports when it’ll be officially be available for download on the nexus one website. On a teaser interview smited to him:
“You call this a superphone — 3.7-inch capacitive display, but no keyboard and no multitouch. Yet it has multitouch outside the US. Why not America?”
Andy’s reply:
“It’s not an America versus outside America kind of thing. It’s a decision that is a result of the OEM model. I personally don’t like two-handed operations… there is no conspiracy.”
Hilariously, European HTC nexus one models had the multitouch feature already installed. But why? I guess that’s what you called ‘preference’ as Mr. Rubin’s answered. Definitely, his ‘own’ preference only.
Wallpaper glitch, Touch sensor ‘insensitivity’ etc.
If you’re one of the users who bought nexus one on its debut then you probably experience the error once you change your ‘live wallpapers’ from time to time. Also, the response time of the home of nexus one is somewhat ‘insensitive’ and you need to do some magical finger gesture just for it to work all the time.
I don’t know about you, but I’ll be so pissed if I found out that this insensitivity issue will happen whenever I want to go back with that favorite window that I’m browsing.
You gotta see this video:
Nexus One TouchScreen Performance Got Served?
Wondering why you’re nexus one has a tendency not to flow smoothly unlike your ‘old’ iphone device which does flawlessly? Don’t fret, you’re not the only person who’s having this question. A recent ‘geek’ experiment was made by moto labs to answer these queries and the results speak for themselves.
Here’s the excerpt of the review:
The iPhone’s touch sensor showed the most linear tracking with the least amount of stair-stepping. The Droid Eris and Nexus One tied for second with only faint wiggling – but actually performed best at the edge of the screen. Last in the line-up was the Motorola Droid, which demonstrated significant wavy artifacts or “stair-stepping.”
The 3G Switching Problems (Jan 9)
Perhaps you’re one of the people who’s jiving with the ‘oh so many’ complaints piled on google support forums about the strange error about the 3G switching/connection of Nexus One. No? Then just read the errors below so you can prep-up when ‘that’ arrives again.
Problem: It appears majority of the users have a hindrance on switching their Nexus One to 3G or it doesn’t switch at all. While some constantly receives switching of their Nexus unit to 3G to EDGE simultaneously. To extend the glitch, other users posted that in some spot 3G coverage seems to be excellent while it yields the opposite on some area
Hopefully, this glitch is totally fixed now.
Voice Recognition Doesn’t Recognize Some of Your Voice?
Forget the grandeus, heart-accelerating speech about the Voice to Speech native feature of Nexus One. Seriously, what’s your take? I mean, yes we all know that it has voice-cancellation via its dual microphone and all of that enchilada, but have you really tried to do voice-to-speech on public and use it to replace you text? Chances are you’ve fallen onto these categories.
1) Yes it recognizes your voice, but when it comes to hyphens, periods. It trips.
2) Still doesn’t answer the URL issue – Have you tried to use it while stating a URL? C’mon try it! :)
3) Language barrier – N1 being released to be embrace by the whole world should have a far more advance features to understand international languages. So far, if you’re feeling french-y, italian-y, spanish.. etc, this won’t work.
Seriously, its performance is just at par with what your old ‘iPhone voice-to-text app’ can do. The only difference here is that with N1.. you have it on-the-box while the latter obliges you to spend some minutes browsing the app store and installing it for free. (ah yes it’s really hard to do! *sarcastic*)
Nexus One’s Music Store is still ‘baby’ compare to iTunes
Ah yes, the iPhone does, iPhone doesn’t routine. But let’s hear some facts, shall we? If you still don’t have any idea how big the iTunes store really is then this excerpt is for you.
On January 6, 2009, Phil Schiller announced in his Macworld 2009 keynote speech that over 6 billion songs had been downloaded since the service first launched on April 28, 2003. Which makes it the largest online music store in the world.
Not only that, iTunes has all the music-bonanza features; Features that are still leagues ahead compare with the music store of Android.
The Apple App store is still the king
Well, we know that Android is finding its way to have more apps too – Now reaching 16k Apps vs the 100k Apps of Apple.
Now, you may also heard about the rumors that the Android’s app store has the ‘quality not the quantity’ factor against its main rival the Apple app store which is getting the ‘low quality, high quantity’ type of apps. My take? Probably at some point there’s a fact with that story – That is, if you’ll only look at android app’s ratio. But you can’t also deny that Apple’s App store is the king and even how you try calculate it, invert the picture, do some hocus-pocus the amount of quality (‘I’m talking about the count) of Apple is far bigger than what Android has.
Simple Math: 80% of 20k is 16k and 30% of 100K is 30k – Even there are 70% rotten apps in the apple app store. there will still be that remaining 30% cream of the crop, which is still way bigger than the whole totality of the current Android App store.
iDon’t know if this has been said to you– That to beat iPhone or to have a real iPhone killer is to find a phone wherein it can beat the Apple App store first. You see, Mr. Job’s Apple squadron had already foreseen that their iPhone, just like any other device, will rust (specs becoming obsolete) – What’s hot today may already be cold tomorrow. So the thing that you need in order for a phone to dominate is to have a repetitive update that’s impervious to ‘rusting’. Ladies and gentlemen the answer is the App store.
Needless to say this is the sole reason why Apple is dominating and still being used by millions worldwide. The reason why since its release on 2007, iPhone literally killed all the competition, I’m talking about the domination of Nokia for the past several years. Apple brought up the ideology that with mobile “It has never been just about the specs”. Goog know’s this, that’s why the Android app store has been developed to at least defuse the exploding domination of Apple.
Be the judge, if it can catch up. Remember 2 weeks from now and Apple will have another statement about their “iSlate Tablet” and their 4th generation update for the iPhone. Don’t sleep yet, this nexus one fad could just be a thing of the yesterday’s news.
Wrap-up:
Just roughly a week after the official release of N1 and we’ve already come up with so many reasons why it SUCKS. In the end, it will be up to your taking and personal preferences if you’re still going to buy this phone or wait for a couple of months until you see how the price of this phone plummets and see some unearthly reviews from unsatisfied customers as well – so you can have it without hurting your wallet at least.
Nexus One has the ‘super-specs’ that will beat iPhone 3GS at a glance. We had covered it up even weeks before its official release. The Camera, the processor. etc, also it’s not dependent to one carrier only — Another advantage against the iPhone. Okay, I will stop now, remember this article is all about why nexus one sucks. So just read our past reviews about nexus one. Oki?
Nexus One may be ahead of the specs, but its android store still looks like a baby compare to the well-established, fully-monetize, and highly-utilized Apple App store. If you have been using iPhone for 2 years now and then you have a change of heart to switch to Nexus One, perhaps you will feel a ‘jetlag’ making you want to go back with your ‘old’ iPhone.
For now, its hard to predict whether if Goog’s phone can outwit, outplay, outsmart iPhone or not. But for now savor the current reasons why Nexus One sucks. I think this is the reason why you’re still reading this article up to this portion, right? Gotcha!
(Don’t forget to email us whenever you feel your Nexus One sucks again)
Jan 12, 2009 Updates:
Since we started this “nexus one sucks” article – a lot of tension/enlightenment was build and was resonated through the comments section and emails suggesting us this and that. I must say at these times, its best to separate the wheat from the chaff and that’s why the comment box below yields little response out from the uber count of spammy messages we received particularly from users expressing their remorse regret about the Nexus One and of course to the iPhone kind as well (the other side of the coin)
Again we suggest that you read the first paragraph of this post before you head on absorbing all the facts from this article. The purpose of this report is to explain (not exploit) all the disadvantages of Nexus One that you (as a user/ future buyer) may want to look at. If you want to hear, its ‘brightside’ and all the nexus one rainbow bubble then feel free to type in the ‘nexus one’ on the pinoytutorial search bar.
After scrutinizing the tips we receive from our email, these 2 ’suck’ tips remained supreme! So here goes your update for this day.
T-Mobile Plan Sucks Part 2 (And Google too?)
Yep part 2 folks — If you think the 500 minute plan of Tmo already sucks then I guess you need to glance at this one.
Today, there seems to be some sort of perplexing news regarding the ETF (Early termination Fee) with the Nexus phone. All the while we thought that Tmo is the only one subjecting an ETF of 200 USD to the superphone then it turns out that Google will let users pay for an ETF too?
Here’s the excerpt: (Here’s the full findings of PC World)
Please note that the Equipment Recovery Fee is imposed by Google and not your chosen carrier and is in addition to any early termination fees that may be charged by your chosen carrier in connection with termination of your wireless plan prior to fulfillment of your chosen carrier’s service agreement term.
Implications: So after the 14-day period (30 days in calif) and should you decide to cancel your contract before the 120 day period ends — then you are also obligated to pay an ETF Fee for BIG G aside from the ones that you already paid with Tmo.
Simple Calculation: So if you bought Nexus One subsidized and decide to cut your contract with Tmo… automatically you will pay a 200 USD (fair enough) But lo! You will also need to pay 350 USD to Google (BIG G will charge the difference between the subsidized cost of the phone and its full price meaning 530 – 179 = 350 + some cents remaining )
Total cost for your Nexus One Locked? $179 (Subsidized price) + 200 USD ETF Fee for Tmo + 350 ETF Mysterious ETF Fee for Goog as well, bringing you a whopping total of almost 730 dollars! Isn’t this news great or what? (*Sarcastic*)
Google’s statement for this baffling findings is still MIA so I suggest for the meantime you think thrice before buying this superphone subsidized. You would not want to be the person being entangled with google’s “super” plan, would you?
A WTF – Nexus One Review (Youtube)
Okay this one has just been uploaded later this day. This is about hmm? I don’t know… Bahh, just check it out.
Dumbness at its finest is all I can say. Anyway, I must say I did laugh with the face of this guy at least. Bravo amigo!
Thanks Jenny for the tip!
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When people say “it’s no iphone KILLER” they are only half right…will it put apple out of business? no.
Is the Nexus One a better phone? Yes…99.99%.
The DROID is a better phone…the DROID with 2.1, and more updates to come, does kill the iphone (in every way, for me). I really don’t even understand how it’s a debate. Use them both, for a few days and then judge. Seems most people that hate Android, have been using the iphone for a few years and have been dumbed down and heavily invested in apple products and services, so everything else sucks…STUPID. The only thing ipone has is slicker looking apps and games (for now). Also, I prefer the Android’s all black UI, over iphones.
The DROID, nor Nexus will stop apple from selling millions of iphones, but you better believe it will affect them, enough to make them step up their game, which is good news for us (the consumer).
So, by your estimation, since Android market, that’s only been around for a few months (2.0 and up), has less apps than itunes, who’s been around for a few years…it sucks?
It’s kinda like your blog has no comments, other than mine, pointing that out. Does that mean…you suck?
bobarazzi1 said “…Android market, that’s only been around for a few months (2.0 and up), has less apps than itunes, who’s been around for a few years…it sucks?”
Sorry, but you don’t get to move the goal posts like that! The iPhone App Store opened for business on July 11th 2008. The Android Market Place opened on October 22nd 2008! In actual fact the App Store has been open for 101 days more – were the 80000 extra apps submitted in this period? Coming back with “they are all fart apps” isn’t an option either. Going on percentages, even if 90% of the MP apps are brilliant (they are not) and only 20% the AS apps are good, the AS is *still* better by 2000 apps! The eco-system is were it’s at. Like the supposed onslaught of malware on the Mac, the deluge of dev leaving the AS for Android MP doesn’t seem to be happening…
You realise whilst it only came out 101 days later, the first google phone was only released around that time- the iphone was out at least a year earlier and so had a MUCH larger userbase than the android which had only just been released. Developers need a userbase to cater for, thats why theres 80,000 more apps there.
Contrary to this article I say iPhone’s suck, and most of the points raised here are far less of an issue that iphone’s flaw.
-Music library being small?? Are you crazy? iTunes is an entirely different business of apple, how is that a way to judge a phone.
-Contract fees? Amazon does the same deal with their subsidizing, THIS IS NORMAL, for america.
-Multitouch issue? its currently only available overseas because US companies are unsure about apple’s legal grounds on patents it may or may not have regarding multitouch in the US. Multitouch is available just fine on overseas androids, even on the Droid (Milestone is the overseas equiv for the droid btw).
-Speech recognition??? Who, be realistic here, actually uses that feature on their phones? (Note that this has been around long before smartphones, I had it on my 2nd motorola flip phone back in 2004 even.) I recall an australian tv ad that made fun of people using those things even haha.
I came to this page looking to find actual flaws of the phone, but the majority of it is iphone-fanboy GARBAGE. you need to be less biased in your views, and i completely agree with what the original poster of this comment thread said, you’ve just gotten used to the iphone and apple garbage for so long its ‘change’ you’re resisting, not the N1’s problem.
Take your own medicine, son! You. Don’t. Get.To. Move. The. Goal. Post. More apologies for Androids lacklustre showing!
Gotcha! Good article, but it “sucks”. Ha.
this is just an aggregation of the annoyances against the nexus one right?
the multi-touch function is present in the US N1, it is just disabled for the OEM applications.
but apps that has the multi-touch functionality can be used, i read.
Thanks man, you nailed this one out. I read your review about the advantages of Nexus One also. It’s good you provided another article for the disadvantages as well! Some people don’t realize that the reason why this post is created is to tackle why Nexus One Sucks and if you can’t handle it FANBOY. Then just go away!
Don’t forget to search “nexus one” on the searchbar, so you can see the advantages of N1. Shh, that’s a secret :D
When people say “it’s no iphone KILLER” they are only half right…will it put apple out of business? no.
Is the Nexus One a better phone? FUCK NO!
Quoted with Correction. Please note, I do not own any Apple products.
The Nexus One is just another smartphone. It doesn’t change the game at all, except for showing that Google is severely lacking in the common sense department. I ordered my Nexus One last Thursday, it’s still in a ‘Not Yet Shipped’ status. I can’t wait for it to arrive, so I can get an RMA# and ship it right back. Fuck Google.
If only it werent $500 and lacking ATT 3G support I’d give up my iphone to play with widgets, tethering, and app freedom. After 2 years I only have 2 apps installed. Kindle & TweetDeck. Apps are trendy lackluster time wasters
The minty price of 300 USD which was supposed to be the official price didn’t materialize at all. Like I said, you could be the person who is willing to shell out half a grand for this ’superphone’ or be the practical buyer who is willing to wait for a couple of months to see the price of this phone plummets in half.
Wow, this is an Apply fanboi site if I’ve ever seen one. I recently upgraded from my iPhone 3GS to the Nexus One and I couldn’t be happier. While the iPhone is a good phone, the 4x screen resolution, 2x faster processor, multi-tasking capabilities and the openness of the Android market convinced me to switch. Not to mention all the dropped calls I got with AT&T. I like that I get a faster/better phone that is more open, and I pay alot less every month to boot!
M’kay, thanks for the comment. Don’t forget to drop by again and read the 1st paragraph of this post. Its role is somewhat synonymous to a disclaimer too.
Oh how things have changed. All those years Mac users said it didn’t matter how many more PC apps you could get, because they were all crap, and the Windows OS was crap, and the hardware was crap, and the $1000 extra dollars you had to plunk down for a Mac was totally worth it. Now the exact opposite argument is made by the exact same set of people. Reminds me of Republicans vs. Democrats.
Why do iPhone fanboys get so nervous over Nexus?
I love my iPhone, but even I have to admit that, since the first iPhone was released, there hasn’t been that much innovation. It’s a great phone, but the Nexus clearly beats it on many fronts. The real danger for Apple lies in the next Nexus, because, if it comes out before the next iPhone, and it features multitouch and more RAM, Apple could be in for big trouble.
I’m free of AT&t and that kids phone. Using the nexus and love it. Don’t tell any one. T-Mobile is now behine Verizon in front of sprint and At&t is last.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/01/14/zagat-now-reviews-wireless-networks-too-verizon-is-the-best-followed-by-t-mobile-att-and-sprint.html
“First and foremost, the purpose of this article is not to settle a dispute or make the fanboys angry. This is about being non-biased non-judgmental and being 100% fair with the Nexus One Flaws.”
Not that I disagree with a lot your comments (mainly because I am bias) but this was the most bias article I have ever read.. The touch screen performance was interesting, but the rest was merely speculation and personal opinion. Perhaps you should look up the word bias in the dictionary, as your article surely mastered the technique.
And that’s why on the second paragraph.. there was these 2 letters encapsulated in Bold..
BS
All you Google employees posting on this site.. get back to work on search and stop trying to be like Microsoft. Google is no different than the other small companies with a one hit wonder and got too big trying to replicate that success. Give it a few more years and Google will be the new Microsoft, still trying to catch up to Apple.
way better than iphone. i have had ever iphone since the 1st, and i can tell u without a doubt that this is a better phone than the iphone 3gs. my 3gs sits at home now, while this one rides with me. it is faster, runs multiple apps(really runs multiple apps, my 3gs is jailbroke and when i run more than 3 aps is pukes). this phone is a beast, whatever i throw at it, it just chomps thru. if youre a light phone user, than iphone might be nice for u, its nice and idiot proof, and scaled down for lightweights. if you’re a power user, who expects more from the powerful device in your pocket, than the n1 is the choice for u. this phone doesnt go a day without impressing me(2 weeks and counting). iphone is in big trouble.
I am willing to bet you’re a Google employee.. or at least, a FANBOY. Either way, your reply is not relevant.
Android better than iPhone, better apps in the Android market. This is utter nonsense and it is not even a matter of opinion, it is fact!
Some facts (a few of MANY): There is not a single Android app that is unique or better than the equivalent for the iPhone (go ahead prove it!), large and sophisticated commercial apps are next to impossible on the Android due to memory complications, the Android market is a MESS – paid apps are STILL not available in many countries (due to Googles infinite incompetence), multi-touch is not available (for most phones), which reminds me… Google Maps is BETTER and FASTER on the iPhone, Google Earth is ONLY AVAILABLE on the iPhone (why [for both apps]? because Apple wrote the apps!), version fiasco – OS fragmentation makes it IMPOSSIBLE for a developer to guarantee quality user experience from phone to phone, Speaking of development – Google’s very odd development methodology is so DIFFERENT that it is near impossible to port apps from iPhone to Android… and because it is so odd – many developers will not bother!, iPhone (c code) vs Android (java code) – who is going to win? DUH!, et cetera, et cetera!
This is not to say that iPhone is without faults… one being that development work MUST be done on an Apple computer (that’s annoying) but considering the huge number of quality apps available in iTunes, I don’t think that is a real problem. Most (or all) the other Apple iPhone disadvantages are solved by jailbreaking the phone…. go ahead name a problem that is not solved.
Google Voice, Lattitude, Wikitude, ShopSavvy (available for 1.5 years on the Android – only now available on the iPhone), Google Sky and so many more. Try listening to a podcast on the NPR app and send the link to a friend on the iPhone. The Mail app come and stops the podcast. To start the Podcast again, have to go back to the screen from where you launched the app. Start the app again and then go through all the links to get to the podcast and start listening from the beginning. The user experience on the Android now far surpasses that of the iPhone. As someone pointed out, the iPhone apps are slicker, but many of the Android apps are much more usable.
>Google Voice, Lattitude, Wikitude, ShopSavvy , Google Sky and so many more.
Better come back with “so many more” because all of the above are available (in one form or another) on the iPhone and all are better quality. BTW, I love Google Sky for the Android but iPhone’s Pocket Universe is more accurate (in augmented reality mode) and hugely more feature rich!
Please try again, seriously… because I really want to see, at least, one Android app that is better than what is available for the iPhone. My theory is that is will likely never happen until Google fixes the terrible memory limitations on the Android.
>Try listening to a podcast on the NPR app and send the link to a friend on the iPhone.
Few will disagree that the lack of multi-tasking annoys a LOT of iPhone owners! However, all bets are off with a OS 3.0 jailbroken phone. That one “correction” eliminates many of the major problems with the iPhone.
Hi, If u favors iphone that is genuine. But if someone favors nexus, then he / she is fan boy or employee of google. U r happy with ur iphone, then dont read anything other than apple news. why r u here?
“There is not a single Android app that is unique or better than the equivalent for the iPhone (go ahead prove it!)”
There are a lot of apps that run in the background and notify you when something happens. A lot of those are impossible with the iPhone.
Take “Locale” it can notify you when you get to certain places. How do you emulate that with Push Notifications?
There are also apps that Apple does not allow because they “duplicate funtionality” and would “confuse users”. That shows that Apple thinks iPhone users are stupid. What about an iPhone app that can play ogg files while you do other things with your phone? Or streaming last.fm in the background?
Thanks!
I am so happy with mu Nexus One, sold my iPhone 3G and ave not looked back!
All those problems plus it’s a boring looking, if not downright ugly, piece of hardware. Whoever approved the bezel alone needs to be horsewhipped.
As many of the reviews are saying “If you don’t care what your phone looks like this is a great phone”.
Groundbreaking ……
The Nexus One sucks. Its a total rip off of the iPhone. I would have expected Microsoft to try and pull of this piece of crap but not Google. There is nothing new original or innovative about the the Google Phone. Its just a shabby cheap knock off of the iPhone. Go back to improving your search engine and stealing advertisers money by benefitting from click fraud and stay away from the phone market because thats where you pathetic fraudsters belong.
Couldn’t the mighty brains at google come up with even 1 innovative feature? Just one for hells sake!?
Exactly. You would think that they might have come up with something innovative like multitasking or a good notification system or outstanding integration with Google Apps or seamless syncing of data in the cloud, or an open platform, or widgets or complete customizability or voice integration or heck even just cut and paste. Instead they just copied everything from Apple and came up with not one single different thing. Seriously, what the heck is Google doing?
I think I may love you…
Whoa! Who cares about the Nexus phone? You can have the best with an iphone, i never have troubles with communication or applications and it is also a lot of fun to use.
I’m happy with my nexus one. 100k apps? you wont be able to install everything in an iphone. and besides what’s the use of more installed apps if your phone can’t multi task? nexus1 got 1gig processor as compared to iphone’s 600mhz processor?
I love my N1, compared to my friend’s iPhone there are pluses and minuses. I think the N1 is much better in important ways. It still makes me laugh that you can’t remove the iphone battery…all of these cool accessories and 100k apps but the battery dies before evening, now you have to charge the battery and your incommunicado, what good is that? no multi-tasking, hell I’ve been downloading software while browsing the web and listening to music and a call comes in, smooth as silk. Sorry but a phone that cannot multi-task can hardly be called a “smart” phone. I could go on but in my mind there is no point.
Andrew Zillges: With all due respect, the battery argument is getting so old! First, I suspect that 95% of Android owners will NEVER buy a replacement battery. By the time the battery reaches its half-life, more smart phone owners are already considering their next phone replacement.
FYI, there are several 3rd party battery add-ons available for the iPhone. One that ‘fits like a glove’ adds an additional 19 hours of talk time and over a week of stand-by.
Well, I have a G1 and the first thing I did for it was to swap the standard battery with a bigger 2700mah tank. Although the phone looks more like a brick now, the fact that it does edge+ full gps for almost 10 hours on battery alone speaks pretty much, and with apps such as I-Go I really know where I go all the time. And as other said, even with this older phone which runs android 1.6 I can pretty much start a music player, launch meebo in background, open a browser window while my touchdown mobile office client is connected to 4 exchange profiles. Sure is not as fast as the pc, but heck, it’s an year old phone.. With the incorporated keyboard let those mails for the support department pile in.
Also, the multitasking you just described can be done on an iPhone, better too. you start a download or two and/or updates, queue up some tunes if you haven’t already, and then start browsing. Nothing stops, because you none of those are 3rd party apps. Get a phone call? guess what… the app continues to download while you talk (not just pick up where you left off) and the web page’s state will be kept as well. Hell, if you wanna keep browsing while on speaker phone, go right ahead.
The iPhone doesn’t multitask 3rd party apps. Search your soul here, what two 3rd part apps do you really want to be running at the same time? OMG I can facebook while I…. play Peggle? don’t think so. Fact is you can only use one element of either of these devices’ interface at a time, and iPhone does that better because of AT&T’s network (if you live somewhere that it doesn’t suck). Good iPhone apps keep their state, so when you leave and come back it’s no big deal.
I’m sure I sound brainwashed here into doing thing’s Apple’s way, but the fact is they came up with satisfactory, if not really good ways of doing all things which are most important. The few N1’s I’ve seen on the market seem to have issues just typing, and switching core OS apps (looks clunky to me).
I think most people just want to find a reason to hate an apple product and love a google product. I love Google as a company far more than I will ever love Apple, but in this product comparison, I’m not sure the iPhone still wins.
App switching on the iPhone could use some polishing, but in all reality it does what anyone really needs, doesn’t have the bugs anymore, and has a better user and developer base.
sorry, posted that on my way out the door… I AM still sure iPhone wins this particular comparison, and when I said it doesn’t have bugs, I know there are still some small ones out there, but the fact is the iPhone OS is much QA tested than android right now. It’s a fact, deal with it.
Can I just point out to everyone bitching about the network unlocked N1 being $530~. If you were to buy a 32GB IPhone 3GS here in the UK that wasn’t on contract – a) it would still be locked to a specific network, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THREE CARRIERS ALL OFFER THE IPHONE; and b) it would cost you £549. That’s $890.
Also, to anyone complaining about the N1 being a rip-off of the iPhone, just remember how many products and ideas that Apple have ripped off of other companies. Either you go back to the dark ages and ignore the fact-of-life that is progression, or you accept that technology moves forward by looking at other products and improving upon them. The Nexus One’s hardware is superior to the iPhone 3GS – but relax, that just means the next iPhone (4G?) will be even faster.
That being said, if I’d had the money when my last contract had run out, I would’ve gone for an iPhone 3GS over my HTC Hero. The Hero’s a great phone, but it’s let down by sub-standard hardware (HTC, what were you thinking?). Come to think of it, the fact that pretty much all Android devices were sub-par (if par is the iPhone 3GS) before the Droid and the N1 (with respect to their hardware), is probably the major reason why the Android Market has suffered.
let me go thru them:
1. T-mobile plan sucks- true but how does that effect us- T-mob and Google have since altered theplan
2. no multitouch- well, that is just wrong- it should read no multi touch in GOOGLE APPS out of the box. Android DOES have multitouch- eg. Dolphin browser, plus a few gallery apps…. Cyanogen has gotten multitouch working in browser and is working on implementing it OS wide. also today he tweeted that he has figured out how to make it super smooth and accurate. Personally i have multitouch on my rooted magic and NEVER use it. well, not in browser or gallery. would be nice in the keyboard though apparently….
this one is an oversight by google for those who want it but personally i prefer the hacked browser “betterbrowser” way of doing it- double tap to zoom in and triple tap to zoom out….
3. ONE live wallpaper FCs but that is easily overcome by changeing the colour palette it uses. Not good in a release model i will admit but there is a way around it.
4. as for touch sensitivity i cant comment on that- a friend of mine said the same thing… not sure if its because of the live wallappers or not but we will see after Cyanogen gets his mitts all over the source code.
5. the whole drawing article has been disproved. they did not include all of the article in the engadget article (surprised?)… but i have seen pics of people who have tried the same thing on their phones and got totally different results…. nexus/droid/iphones whatever- all different. maybe iphone was better at a couple of things but there are pros and cons for all…
6. voice to text.. really it doesnt do hyphens? SHIT NO! i mean really…. i know of one greek who thinks it is awesome and works perfectly- same for a singaporean i speak to….. the last paragraph shows the bias of the article: “Seriously, its performance is just at par with what your old ‘iPhone voice-to-text app’ can do. The only difference here is that with N1.. you have it on-the-box while the latter obliges you to spend some minutes browsing the app store and installing it for free. (ah yes it’s really hard to do! *sarcastic*)”
7. nexus music store? didnt even know it had one? He means amazon? dont think we can use that from Australia anyway. who cares anyway when you can just drag and drop or buy from anywhere online (read here: no itunes required)… as for the android music app- yes it sucks arse but i do not know anyone at all who uses the stock music app- android allows other music apps and boy are there heaps to choose from- for those with an android phone already search the market for rockon and try the new rockon which is WIP- called 3 or something like that- its rockon nextgen. now this is awesome….. personally i use tunewiki and meridian. i cant comment on the iphone music app cos when i used an iphone for a few weeks it didnt have A2DP so didnt use it (obviously while ago) but the bagging of android music is not right.
8. yes the apple app store is still king and will be for quite a while i think. Android is up to 20000 and growing fast. there will be more and better games soon with the nexus one out- Google have announced today that at the gaming dev. conference in US they will be giving away either a nexus one or Droid to all dev’s who attend their seminars…. as for android apps there is not much i miss…. i would probably tweak a few apps if i could but i have everything i could want- i know Chuna said there was a few missing but out of supposedly 100K apple apps thats not bad.
i think their last statement sums up their bias “Keep sending us tips why nexus one sucks and we will update this article so to speak. Thank you.”
anyway… nexus one is far from perfect and there are some things the iphone does better but their are things that the nexus one/android does better.. no phone is perfect… i prefer to listen to people who are actually using the phone rather than writers who often have a very obvious bias one way or another.
Disclaimer: written by un unashamed Android fanboy :D
>anyway… nexus one is far from perfect and there are some things the iphone does better but their are
>things that the nexus one/android does better.. no phone is perfect…
But you still haven’t explained what is better about the Android. Please do so, I am curious!
>i prefer to listen to people who are actually using the phone rather than writers who often have
>a very obvious bias one way or another.
I own both. To be fair, I am stuck on Android OS 1.5 (but that is one of the many problems with Android – re: OS fragmentation).
I could not care less about who loves what phone. The only reason why I comment is that I want to people to make an informed decision before wasting their money on an Android phone. As it stands, Android isn’t that good AND I don’t see this situation improving until Google makes some major changes.
So please, tell me specifically how Android is better. Please name a few killer apps that are better on Android. So far, no one has succeeded. One of the reason why apps will always be inferior on the Android is because of its shortsighted memory problems.
Sorry, but any type of fanboy is extremely annoying. Dogmatic loyalty without reason is stupid IMHO!
Ok, any of you iphone junkies tell me how you can beat this…if i dont like my dialer i just write myself a new app(and i do) and install it…ok lets say this “keyboard” problem is bugging me, once again i just write myself a new one. The so called 3g problem is fixed by going to setting and selecting auto select carrier and boom fixed!
compete with that :]
Uhhhh… is that all you got? You can write and install your own apps on your own iPhone, it’s all in the dev kit. Regardless, few people write their own apps, and most don’t feel they should have to replace core functionality out of necessity…it should work to start with. Plenty of 3rd party dialer apps exist for the AS, and if you write one yourself you can get it on there pretty quick. I understand your real argument here is that the OS is open, I get it… I’m a developer too… but the app store, with the exception of political BS like Google Voice… it’s open enough, and maintains QA. They are a little kooky about replacing core functionality, but what you guys just refuse to admit, is that core functionality is pretty f**king well implemented on the iPhone, so little of it needs replacing, especially the keyboard.
Also, with your keyboard issue…you writing a new app will not fix the hardware limitations of the N1. As shown in the video, it’s simply inferior. I’m not a fan of Apple’s all-controlling mentality, but in this particular scenario, them being the sole controllers of hardware and software quality assurance and integration seems to be working quite well for them.
I’ve used both iPhone and Nexus One. Been using iPhone for a few years, at the beginning it’s a great phone because no other phone is as good. Ok for those who said the iPhone never have bugs or system problems, that’s bullshit. I bought the iPhone in July 2008 and the problems are far higher than what I’m getting on Nexus One.
The Nexus One has multi-touch capability but apparently perhaps some patents from Apple prevented them from using? I don’t know, but some apps in Nexus One has multi-touch already, so there you go, alot of people didn’t know!
After using both Nexus One and iPhone, I have to say Nexus One is way much better. I love it more than the iPhone and it’s so much more useful. You just have to use it to know it. As for the common Nexus One issues, the guys at http://NexusOneSG.com/ fixed it and so far, it has been a smooth affair. 3G running perfect, I had multi-touch browsing, my contacts are all sync and inside nicely from Outlook, everything just brilliant. So if you ask me, I strongly recommend people buy from them as well, the guys at http://NexusOneSG.com/ knows what they are doing.
iphone wins? are you crazy? on every hardware level n1 obliterates the iphone. the iphone wins with regard to being able to give one to my grandmother and she will prolly be able to figure it out. but for anyone who expects/needs more from their phone, and doesn’t like to be restricted, locked down, told what u can and cant do, and basically stonewalled…then the choice is very clear. this is the best android phone to date, and it is such a clear winner when compared to the iphone. unless apple steps it’s game up considerably, and loosens the totalitarian reighns on their jeezus phone, then android will continue to steal marketshare, and developers away from the iphone platform. imho, the battle is over, and the tide will continue to swell in the direction of free and open source…and that is without a doubt NOT IPHONE. RIP iPhone.
i never said i did this out of necessity, your taking that out of context. I can form my phone anyway i want it to look/react. i can improve to MY likings anything i want essentially :]
cheers :]
mcosmi: My gosh…. the choice is clear… you have yourself the new jeezus phone. Don’t you get it… your zealousness is no different than some iPhone owners.
Anyhow, this is not actually so much a matter of opinion, my answer is based on facts. The fact is.. Android is a hackers phone. Buy the Android if you want to build apps on a non-MAC computer, if you want a mostly open phone OS, and you want to hack it to death. That is the best Android purpose of the Android.
However, if you are more interested in an actual functional phone, a phone with access to the best quality apps (no other smart phone has quality apps like the iPhone), a developer friendly phone (in the sense that you have access to sell your apps to ALL world markets and your customers are also more willing to pay for apps)…. let’s face the facts: the iPhone is better for apps and for app developers. Until Google fixes the serious issues with memory, no one will ever write an app that uses more than a few megabytes of memory (that means few commercial games will ever be ported to Android).
To date, there isn’t a single killer app for the Android and definitely no app that is better on the Android (compared to an iPhone equivalent). Go ahead, prove me wrong!
thats funny cause i use macs…and it works very nicely(BSD, and linux talk well.) Also, i have many apps installed, and i have to say that EVERY google app performs better on the android platform…apple and google are distancing themselves, and the native google apps are not as seemlessly integrated on the iphone. if you are a big google user(gmail, docs, maps places, goggles…) then ANY android phone will be a better fit. but the N1 is the 1st hardware that is also better. So now android has the software AND the hardware. Also…google goggles(not avail on iphone) google places, google voice…all better…you are proven wrong. Also, twidroid is better than tweetie2…hands down. multiple account management and lists is better than tweetie2. The only thing i miss a bit is pinch and zoom on maps, and that is coming. Also, it took 3 iterations to get cut and paste on iphone…things move faster in the open world, and android is a freight train going 150mph, while the iphone is ahead in terms of user, but is putting along in the slow lane. better watch your rear view mirrors apple…there’s a flash about to go by. Bottom line, is i own both, and i used both extensively…and i can say that this phone works WAY better for ME. ME. Thats all i can speak definitively on…who knows, maybe iphone works better for u, and if so, good for u.
Obviously Google apps are going to be better on android… it’s part of their market plan, so they probably always will be. I’ll give you that. But don’t start stroking the feather in your cap yet, those aren’t exactly killer apps. Yes, they are core to many people’s day-to-day, but all those apps other than goggles (which is coming, and from what I hear isn’t great right now anyways) can be used without installed apps since they are designed to be used as web apps. GV is a tad different, but unless you want to make a conference call or record a conversation, the app is unnecessary.
So congrats, we’ve got two valid reasons. no iTunes and Google apps. Maybe enough to make someone think twice, but you’ve hardly got grounds to say “iPhone is in big trouble” and needs to watch out for a “freight train going 150mph”. I can still give dozens of real reasons for the iphone.
The open source world is a vital part of the community. It keeps the closed world much more competitive, so I like it. But the fact is they both need each other and they each have their strengths. Open dev is great for software that either a) wouldn’t make anyone serious profit to begin with b) is a simple enough problem that the community can tackle with pseudo-leadership, or c) has a company with capitol behind it which has decided to use the open community to it’s advantage (Google). Remember Google, as “not evil” as they are, is still mostly not open. The core money-making fundamentals to their business are still quite closed. The open stuff is just bonus prized to keep the masses entertained and coming back.
It doesn’t work for a lot of important dev models, the best example of which is gaming platforms and games which push the envelope of the platform they are on. Name one truly open source game, let alone gaming platform that has graphics competitive to others on the same era or platform. And why not? cause there is no way to make enough money off them without patenting the intel. prop. rights so you can sell it at premium prices. It’s capitalism. Deal with it.
It’s going to be a long hard road for you android guys until you can claim your phone is a viable gaming platform, even with all those specs. Let me know when anyone even puts an android phone in this category, let alone wins: http://mashable.com/2009/12/10/ipod-touch-vs-nintendo-ds-vs-sony-psp/
games > google apps + twitter
SDC: Word
So basically, we are back to: Other than “You just have to use it to know it” and being able to hack it just for the sake of hacking… has ANYONE yet mentioned a viable reason that the every day person (this includes developers and tech saavy users) who just want a phone, MP3 player, browser, game console, gps unit, app distribution network, social apps, utility apps, etc, etc…would want to choose the N1(or droid, hero, mytouch, etc) over an iPhone?
Customizing is nice, I get it…. but I, as well as the rest of the world, am a little past skins, live backgrounds, scripts, and hacks. It’s all either useless to begin with, or shouldn’t be needed. I see that the ability to do it is a feature, and it’s nice. But it’s really not worth the time of someone who has a life to sit around making their phone sing and dance for them just cause they want it to do something a little different. Especially when there is another phone that’s been on the market for over 2 years that already does it all just fine.
The hardware specs on N1 and Droid are a little better, but what I’ve seen makes it look a little slower/ more cludgey to the average person
If your idea of a good time is sitting around developing to no one’s taste but your own… have fun with that.
Me? I dev to make a living, and I live for having fun. So with the exception of developing things that could only be done on a mobile device (which iphone is great for), I’ll keep my wasted time limited to jacking around with code on my PC. And yes “I’m a PC”, I love Win7 and Mint Linux but for now, I’ll keep my mac phone till someone can show me what I’m actually missing out on.
you know what? screw it. I’ll even help you guys get warmed up…
iTunes – I wish I didn’t have to use iTunes.
…there, now tell me something worth a damn.
One app in the market, its called moozone, you can store music up to 100gb through their app.
Sounds like we got another iPhone fan boy here… Seriously, how much Apple paid you to write this crap.
1. T-mobile: I don’t give a shit to it.. I’m outside US
2. It has multitouch with the latest firmware update
3. Wallpaper glitch.. seriously.. u kiddin me.. u want me to list here all the things that don’t work in an iPhone
4. I saw that techno buffalo video long before i bought my nexus one (It actually inspired me to buy it)
5. I don’t care about the touch sensitivity analysis .. coz mine works cool, even iPhone users around me like it
6. 3G problem.. guess what, I’ve got none as I’m using it outside US where there’s no so-called sucky T-mobile network
7. Voice .. come on !!
8. iTunes, at least I don’t have to depend on iTunes software to sync my phone. Connect to any computer and copy ur fav songs. Simple right :D
9. App Store: It has Android market with 10,000 apps and trust me it has all that you can think of. Plus development is open and there’s no frustrating approval process to submit your apps.
I have iPhone and have not tried Nexus yet. This phone has everything close to best except these:
1. Call quality: I first thought it is my phone but then i relaized the issue is with all iPhones i tried (ofcourse my friends have it too ;-) My suggestion, if your priority is voice quality during the call..sorry if you have iPhone..really bad voice quality compare to old nokia/blackberry phones i used some time back..
2. 3G issue (might be ATT issue than iPhone)..it really sucks..it never works when you need it..specially in the car when you are dirivng and really need it..
3. VPN sucks..Blackberry Bold was the best i ever tried, connected with my company network flawlessly and never had to use VPN. Apple should think of a better solution..otherwise its worst for business use..
4. Everything has to go through Apple. We cannot download anything whitout iTunes or local installation which is another pain..Do we pay this much of money, buy the phone and still be always looking for Apple to have that software and pay them as well on top. ** Not allowing Voice calls over Wi-fi is a shame..Netflix users should be able to see movies with account right away..
Apart from these points, its a trat to use..user interface is awesome..tons of applications..music/movie download..overall really good concept..
N1 > 3GS
enough said
and here are some not outspoken facts.
- the iphone is not a multitasking device. when a iphon user runs one device a android user can run 10. he can use more apps and if you use more apps you are not willing to pay for it. and why? because the most a free.
- most of the apple apps are trash. i have friends with iphone and when they show me something new, they look like kids and i just think. do really need this crap? in my opinion 15% of the apps is really usefull and the rest is just for fun.
-when ipone just see a minor part of the web. android users can surf around including websites with flash.
and there are many websites based on flash.
- could it be also that iphone user a bound to the apple policy of apps and never experience a free apps world? if you are trained over years that in the big world wide web there is nothig possible than the app store… you might loose you mind and forget about any other solutions. you accept beeing kept to a device without questioning. apple user allways seem to accept this.
- google rules and if i am want to jump on the train of an mobile device. then i want it all without boundries. google maps, google account and multitasking possibilieties.. in my opinion, for a distributor or someone who wants to use a handphone not as a toy, more as a smal computer that helps get work done. there future lays in android, win 7 or other major software who will give the users the freeness to decide what apps they want to install and give the programmers the freeness to make one application for all.
- why i do need apple itunes store? i can stream music, record it and make my wishlist. all free and legal. recording internet radiostations is the best i experience and i can still copy my music on my phone. i just exchange sd cards. does the iphone supports sd cards? live along with ituns and drm
you apple users will never accept the fact because you are company brainwashed users tried to look to be seen a special group. the group is shown cool on the advertising but seen this people as a designer. i just think they are jus brainf…
i dont give a … about google. i am a tech geek and i buy whats best on the market. i wouldn never buy the ipad because is also just stoneage device. if i buy something i want that it has less boundries as possible and will be still future orientated in few years.
“and here are some not outspoken facts. ” ha ha ha ha
dude, you mentioned like 2 correct facts, 20 opinions all of which have already been discussed in detail all over this thread and thousands of others all over the web (few of which use flash).
I didn’t bother to count the incorrect and skewed facts you site in favor of android but it’s obvious you’ve never used an iPhone for more than the 5 seconds your “buddies” showed you their apps. Could it be that you are brainwashed into believing everything “open” is always better?
“There future lays in android, win 7…” the openness and multitasking of android you refer to will likely be barely existent in win 7. There will be the similar restrictions on what parts of the OS you can replace, modify, etc, and multitasking which is apparently soooooo important will be an only slightly better implementation than the iPhone. Why? cause it’s good for market share and batter life. deal w/ it.
BTW, you got any sweet “open” games for your mobile device? you know, the second most popular thing people do with a mobile device? ha, no, you don’t cause android’s openness still hasn’t fixed their memory issues.
Nah… I came here to find some ACTUAL flaws of the phone… Nothing really could actually make me think that I should not consider it.. To each, His own…
I really wish that the web had a B.S. detector and automatically eliminated anything that wasn’t factual.
As a result, postings like lingo (February 26th, 2010 at 11:52 am) would not exist! Word of advice lingo, if you don’t know what you are talking about….please do not contribute!
> the iphone is not a multitasking device. when a iphon user runs one device a android user can run 10.
Wrong and mostly wrong!
Contrary to popular myth, the iPhone is a multitasking phone. Apple simply limits most multitasking to their own apps. If you want full unrestricted multi-tasking, you jail break the phone. Most people, however, do not need to do this. 10 apps running at the same time on an Android is dumb! Why? Because it will run very slow and you will likely run out of memory first. Hence, the reason why Apple choose to lock down multi-tasking!
> most of the apple apps are trash. i have friends with iphone and when they show me something new,
Wrong again. Because of many issue with Android (especially serious limiting memory issues), all the top software producers are focused on Apple’s iPhone. No other smart phone gets the same attention. I could name names like GameLoft…. but seriously… it is all of them! Virtually every community that would benefit from a smart phone app had already written an app for the iPhone! Very, very few have bothered making an equivalent app for the Android. Some examples: Nasa, ZipCar, Starbucks, Cisco, Dowjones, Skype (yes, there is one for the Android but it is seriously crippled), Google Earth (only available for iPhone), Many many commercial games (e.g. Game Loft, EA, etc.), etc… the list goes on… that is why iPhone has the slogan, “There’s an app for that”.. Because of some major memory problems with the Android, it will be *IMPOSSIBLE* to make many of these apps for the Android.
In stark contrast, there are perhaps about 30 high quality apps for the Android and many of these are not from big name software developers.
>-when ipone just see a minor part of the web. android users can surf around including websites
>with flash. and there are many websites based on flash.
WRONG and partly WRONG! The Android only supports Flash lite… that means that you are limited to simple ad based flash and flash video on the Android. Complex flash (such as flash gaming and most live flash video) will not work on the Android. I’m willing to bet that 80% of the flash sites you visit WILL NOT WORK! I am also willing to bet that many You Tube videos will fail to launch on your Android!
While it is true that the iPhone does not support flash (and probably never will), Apple’s reasoning is that they are focused on support for HTML5, which is really the future. Flash is CPU intensive and messy (read out of date/long in tooth).
>- could it be also that iphone user a bound to the apple policy of apps and never experience a
>free apps world? if you are trained over years that in the big world wide web there is nothig
Mindless drivel….
>- google rules and if i am want to jump on the train of an mobile device. then i want it all without
>boundries. google maps, google account and multitasking possibilieties.. in my opinion, for a
More mindless drivel. Clearly you don’t understand that Google’s plan is to get as many Android phones out into the world, collect data from each of the millions of phones and then make even more money selling this data. Did you actually think that Google was benevolent and giving something free to the world? Currently, Google and Apple are roughly worth the same amount… but if Google is successful with the Android, they will become more powerful than even Microsoft.
>why i do need apple itunes store? i can stream music, record it and make my wishlist. all
>free and legal. recording internet radiostations is the best i experience and i can still copy my
iTunes is actually what makes iPhone so great! Many people who are familiar with both phones know that some sort of PC Interface is what the Android is missing.
>does the iphone supports sd cards? live along with ituns and drm
DRM? iTunes songs are MP3 format (DRM free!). SD memory? I used to think that was what the iPhone was missing until I got smart! Actually, the fact that Android phones require SD memory is the precisely the reason why the phone has huge memory issues.!
>you apple users will never accept the fact because you are company brainwashed users tried to look
>to be seen a special group. the group is shown cool on the advertising but seen this people as
>a designer. i just think they are jus brainf…
Actually, I own both… Perhaps, if you looked at the facts, you might realize that it is you that appears brainwashed. I mean, seriously, you are spewing off misconceptions and lies, you really don’t know what you are talking about.
>> Because it will run very slow and you will likely run out of memory first. Hence, the reason why Apple choose to lock down multi-tasking!
Wrong! ya u can pick on the little ppl who can’t speak right but lets see how u like it.
Wow u are brainwashed Multi-tasking DOES not slow the phone down free ram is wasted ram if ur a developer u should know this i have 25 apps running on my n1 (not counting the system services and processes) and still have over 100mbs of ram left with no lag whatsoever. I already know what ur gonna say “why do i need 25 apps at once?” I like to leave my apps open exactly the way i left them w/o having to restart the app all over but u and owen wilson can make a call and browse the web at the same time so good for you.
>>Actually, the fact that Android phones require SD memory is the precisely the reason why the phone has huge memory issues.!
Wrong again. Theres a little thing called apps2sd if you really need more than the allotted memory(which i never have exceeded 256mbs even with apps2sd) and google is working on a way to do this officially so that point is really moot IMO I can buy a 16gb sd card and devote 8gbs to apps if i really needed to install every app on the market.
>>Name one truly open source game, let alone gaming platform that has graphics competitive to others on the same era or platform
99% of your fanboy arguments are based on gaming and killer apps. I thought i was buying a phone not a nintendo ds if i want to play games i’ll buy a psp. No android doesn’t have as many apps nor are they anywhere near the quality of the app store but im not looking for “a killer app” i’m looking for a PHONE that also acts like a laptop. Someone made an argument about scripts not being needed but thats not all you can do .Can you adb bridge your iphone to your pc? Ya thats control over your phone one simple linux command (rm -r data\app\packagenamehere) to remove an app from my phone just an example i pretty much have a linux laptop in my pocket with great mail, contact syncing and notification system out of the box where’s your app for that?
The only valid arguments I see on this page are the touch screen and looks of the iphone being better than the Google Nexus One…. And if you’re looking to see what the google nexus one does better, how about running pandora in the background while you do everything else like surf the internet or use one of the thousands of other applications? How about gps enabled readouts of a hike through the woods while you listen to pandora? How about not paying for “the cloud”? Even the most die hard Apple fans must admit, paying $99 for mobile me is BS. Really stinky BS.